Without Walls Church

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Did not expect the environment, pretty modern seating, stage and sound. Pretty sweet

Dan DeAnda

Nothing like it!!!! YOU MUST EXPERIENCE!!!! 🙏

Rebecca Vaughan

I have a question. I've finish die hard Green Bay Packer fan for over 25 yrs. I've found out that they and many other teams are large supporters of Planned Parenthood and have actually boycotted Pro Life. Is it wrong to keep watching football knowing in a way I'm supporting them?

Steph W

So do you bow out gracefully and quietly? Or speak up to protect anyone else from experiencing what your family has? My family has grown and changed for the better in the last year attending withoutwalls church. We have also experienced a great deal of contention and persecution. We had a lot of questions about the bible. When we would ask for clarification we were met with hostility. When we would voice hypocrisy and injustice we were silenced. There is a great deal of burocracy in this church. They will stop at nothing to protect their own. To the point many leaders will not speak up about other leaders. Because they know the head pastors will do nothing about it. The church as a whole is not a good example of what Christ envisioned church to be. There is to much concern with towing the line for good to prevail. Go at your own risk. But it is not worth the contention it brings. The head pastor Ken met with my family once. After hearing one side of the story first. I did not realize the Duttons relationship with the Youth pastors was so strong it clouds their judgment. The other youth children and some youth leaders feel uncomfortable with the youth pastors ways. However the Duttons dont care. It is a very if you dont like it leave situation. Yes you wished us well and blessed our journey ahead. Interestingly that was done after only speaking to the youth pastors. Never speaking to me. I made multiple attempts to talk with the pastors in confidence and was refused every time. But hypocrisy came in the form of their confidential meetings about my family with no desire to extended us the same courtesy. No desire to direct us towards resolution. Instead the constant desire was to have us conform and to so quietly or leave. No one was corrected except us. It takes two to have a problem and two to resolve it. If you have a problem you are in the wrong no one else is. Right is right and wrong is wrong. No matter your position. This church does not see things that way. There is only one person capable or wrong and that is anyone with questions.